Being a personal friend of mine (yes, I did remove him from the site but that was another mutual reason), I can't spend a day inside of these certain communities without hearing some moronic bashing of this guy.

Here are some generic reasons:
-He at first copied the AVGN through making fun of the same things as him.
-He at first copied the AVGN using the same cuss words as him (which is obviously the only reason why people watch AVGN to begin with because putting two cuss words together are hilarious NOTE THE SARCASM HERE)
-He has videos deleted that bash him (not sure if he does it), because people obviously are all YouTube staff members who have actual proof of him doing it.

Now, things have changed.

People are complaining about his "Breakfast Rants" to his "copyright infringing special effects", and to a bystander like me, it's completely fucking retarded.

There's so many worse reviewers out there (people who copy others and 'review' the same game), who get compliments by the same people who bash the Irate Gamer. Hypocrisy? Obviously, in my opinion.

Discuss.

My current beef is mainly due to the fanbase. As with many good things (Well I'm not a fan so the term is loose) Fans will generally ruin the experience, and IG fans act as if he was the originator of Angry retro reviews and will spam up videos of other reviewers.

Many also see him as a plagiarist taking bits and pieces off other peoples videos and using that in his own vids. Others claim that he copies the AVGN and think that he is the god of Retro and think IG is just another clone. (Again not my views but c'mon just look at the AVGN Nazi's)

I think people blew this way out of proportion (lol he uses special effects therefore he is a talentless hack)

However I think many people (myself included) dislike the fact that he removes anything that resembles critisism and other dislike for his work. Remember Armake21's rant about him and his fans well that mysteriously dissapeared shortly after it was uploaded and I wonder who was behind all of that.

Your description and what I see are two completely different things, and I'm very orientated around the actual YouTube community, so--


Are you serious? I don't know if you're being serious or not but do you think he really shut him down? No sarcasm, I'm just wondering.

Not his account, but the vid itself.

Rumour has it that a disgruntled IG fan found a way to access Armake21's account and deleted it. Though this is a rumour and I don't want to propogate it as the truth. If this is the case then I suppose IG has no control over his fanbase so it's not really his fault.

I'll sum it up like this. Like anything I don't give a f*ck about, I don't watch. Anything I like, I watch.

If he copied AVGN, I don't really care because I don't watch IG.

I will say the interview on that internet radio station was jacked. Regardless of your thoughts about him, it just made the radio hosts look unprofessional, and I actually gained respect for IG because of it. Not to the point that I'll watch his stuff, because respect does not equal like. But he gained enough respect in my book for being willing to take the flaming arrows that I'll get more pissed about people talking crap about him then him stealing ideas.

Because in the end, neither character will be around forever. I'll enjoy AVGN until James decides to pack it up.

Oh, thank god. I thought you were implying that the Irate Gamer was breaking into Armake's account and that's why it was deleted.

Yeah, someone else pissed off and doing it, that's plausible IMO, but it's not like it even matters now.

Here's the reason Geoff, they have seen this thing before, "Angry Reviewers" are littered on YouTube because they are unoriginal with content. They can not review a video game just like anybody else, (ie Gamespot, IGN) they must try and make a name for themselves by being "different" by being "angry". People associate Irate Gamer the same way they see AVGN, as a rip-off. Just like how people see your site, FreezeCracker as a rip-off of ScrewAttack (and the same goes with TGH and others).

Everyone just wants to see Originality no matter what website they go.

Bores tried to break out of "Classic Gaming" and doing rants on Current Games and Cereal so people won't confuse him with the Angry Video Game Nerd. Unfortunately it failed and if he showcased his other videos (like Ghost Hunters) instead of creating Irate Gamer, he would be much better off, and probably have less haters.

So the reason is viewers are "butthurt" is the reason any audience would get angry-
Originality.

What if I make a series called "Can it Blend"? or If I decide to make a Call of Duty Machinima and call it "Light vs Dark" people would automatically associate that with the original series (Will it Blend and Red vs Blue) and thus people would be pissed.

I don't know why the hatred is continued to this day, or even why people still continue to try and make unoriginal concepts. Unless its for Internet Popularity, in which case, take a number.

I could really care less what he is doing. Taking someone else's idea and running with it is done all the time in the media. Have you ever watched Fox? There were those Wife Swap shows that were both on ABC and Fox. Plus the whole Dancing with the stars and skating with the stars thing. So if he was just another angry video game reviewer I really wouldn't care and just let the AVGN Nazis complain.

But the problem is that he has copied some of his older material from the AVGN. If he had admitted his usage it really wouldn't be too much of a problem with me. Of course now he has moved on to more original material. Although he is seemingly copying Awesome Video Games in his R.O.B. review now.

Usually I just ignore the Irate Gamer. I don't watch his videos nor comment on anything about him. This is just a rare occasion where I'll express my opinion and leave it at that.*

*more posts may follow

I dont hate the irate gamer, but I dont really like him either, I could care less about him being too much like the AVGN, if there could only be one of everything think of how bad music would suck with one of each kind of singer in each genre, or one of each kind of movie - I cant say about him plagerizing ( sp ) him ripping him off word for word.

my problem with him is that he is just not funny and has the charisma and pressence of an old shoe.

It's not that we bash him because we're butthurt about AVGN.

We bash him because his videos are not funny and are filled with a bunch of after effects bullshit.

This falls into the same category on why you don't bash other as popular reviewers who are absolutely not funny. So are you really just bashing because it's a trend thing to do or do the special effects really bother you that much? Not to sound so insensitive to what you actually do with other reviewers, feel free to explain that.

Also, thumbs up on the haikuninja avatar.

I don't watch video game reviews that much. I don't go looking for new people. I was linked to a couple of his videos in good humor and found them not funny. The effects aren't that bad but you shouldn't need a clusterfuck of special effects to review games and be funny in the first place.

I literally haven't watched other reviewers other than IG and (this might be taken the wrong way) AVGN. Although that's it, the fact that I enjoy AVGN more than IG doesn't affect my opinion on him. I could care less for silly internet drama that people always bring up.

It's as simple as I don't find him (or his not needed special effects) entertaining. That's it.

I'm a simple guy. My taste in video editing is very simple. I don't like random flashy effects. Give me some good camera angles and I'm in heaven.

Personally I am wondering what brought up this topic. I didn't see any drama sidekicks and henchmen brought up. Was there a thread I missed?

I think he gets bashed on because he blatantly used AVGN material, but won't admit it. I think if he just up and said he did, but now he's trying something new then he'd probably get a lot of haters off his back. Because here's the thing with the court of public opinion, just because you say "No I didn't" and a whole crapload of everyone else said "Yes you did," the people are the ones judging your work and in the end, theirs is the opinion that counts.

I hope he is proud of his work and all, but when everyone else sees it as a copy of someone's work, well, it's going to be tough to prove them wrong. Because again, it's the public's opinion of you, not your opinion of yourself that in the end decides how many viewers you get.

That's all.

The reason he gets bashed more than other reviewers because despite what people might think he the second most visible "angry" reviewer and thus is going to get the most critcism. If he didn't so blatently copy the nerd in his first two videos he would still be accused of copying, but the critics would have now ammo for their accusations. I agree with what people said before in that he is a horrible actor, which he is. He's not the greatest looking guy and his presence and voice are not suited for reviews since those are what drive videogame reviews. One of the compliments he recieves is his aftereffects work, which to tell you the truth is actually very poor. Really what it boils down to is kind of a jealousy that someone who is not very knowledgable and overall not a very good showman has found success in a very fickle field.

You said earlier that the nerd's act is based largely on his use of curse words and to an extent yeah thats true. Some people come for the character. Personally I haven't been really entertained by a nerd review since Simon's Quest. He seemed truly angry when he reviewed it (I know that sounded cliche). I think a great point someone made was that both of them are not going to be around forever. Eventually the audience or the creators will grow tired and stop caring. Unless they find some other way to continue their success.

The serious category on the board brought it up, if I brought it up anywhere else on any forum I'd probably get stupid 4chan replies.

smart move. As Geoff said if this were say in the soap box then it woudn't be as civil as it has been so far.

My thoughts on the IG? Let me start off with a dream I had. I was at a banquet with the Nerd and the Irate Gamer. The Nerd was sitting next to me, and the Irate Gamer was sitting accross from me, waring a purple suit. Suddenly I was beside my girlfriend and she was bald. After that I saw the Nerd pour a dump truck full of bullshit on the Irate Gamer, and that was pretty much it.

Now, I like to believe that I am a rational level headed person who doesn't wish to jump on the bandwagon. When I first heard of the Irate Gamer, I actually subscribed to him. I thought some of the stuff was kind of funny. One thing I did like was how he did take some of James' material, but elaborated on it. I didn't think he was plagerizing since it's a free country and people can review what they want. It was fine. Then I was talking to Mike Matei, and he gave me a bit of information as to what was really going on. Him being the Nerd's right hand man, I did trust his words, and to be honest, he did make a good point. He suggested that I un-suscribe to the IG, and I did. Truth be hold if I had to choose, I'd pick the AVGN. Now only do I like his style more, but he is personaly more of the kind of person I like. He's a nerd, but pretty laid back and cool about stuff.

Anyway, so for a while I joined in the IG bashing. I was even the one who asked Stuttering Craig and Handsome Tom about the IG contreversy. Eventually I herd that Chris was kind of upset by it. That started me thinking that maybe there is a human behind all of this stuff. Then it hit me why Chris was pulling videos. He was excercising his right to flag videos that used his material to insult, slander, or just plain mock him. I know I'd be mad if somebody took my footage and proceeded to dub over my voice and make me call myself a 'very nice gay man'.

But anyway, it's a mixed bag. His reviews are okay, and beneath the exterior is a guy who's doing stuff, and making money off of it. I can't say I agree that it was good for him to somewhat ride the coattails of a youtube success, but in truth he never did anything to me, so why should I bother with him?

So basically I've decided that I am an AVGN fan for sure, and I will back James. I won't fight to have Chris admit he's a hack and a plagerist, because I think he is trying hard to use his own ideas. Basically I will not take every oppertunity to attack him. I may be crittical of some of his work, but I don't need to subcumb to the level of the mob and become an AVGN nazi. My aim is to set a good example for AVGN fans by being a better person and not needlessy attacking things.

Being a good fan is the Super Mecha Death Christian thing to do.

I understand kind of why people dislike him and all but all the attacks against him are just immature in my opinion. I'm a fan of both James and Chris and I love the work both of them put into their shows, but people act as if James litterally owns the monopoly to angry game reviews. Angry reviews are as old as the web itself, hell AVGN is somewhat of an offshoot of Seanbaby, only I don't recall Seanbaby making videos. I mean is my own video review show any different than Irate Gamer? If people are gonna shit on Chris' parade why not dump their ass on the 20 gajillionfofillionfuckdillion angry reviewers with a camera and a youtube account? If you don't like something don't watch it, don't ruin it for the people who do.

Well Bastard, this is the first time we will disagree. At least YOUR SHOW (the bastard gamer) has research, and tons of your reviews are saying how good a game is (Anthology of Kombat). I am calling Unoriginality towards people who think if you become the next AVGN or Irate Gamer you will become THIS UBER INTERNET CELEBRITY. But Tommy Tallarico said it best...

"They want to say the negatives because that's what gets the most hits"

And that's where you get tons of gaming review sites and shows... we could talk all about Seanbaby, but he has brokenpixels, not to mention OLD TV SHOWS like Judgment Day and X-Play always had to get one of the hosts mad about a video game...

Like High Heat Baseball 2003

(I did mention Tommy Tallarico is one of my Idols, I've looked up to this man even since The Electric Playground started, so it's not a surprise he's on the same page as I am with this whole "Negative Journalism")

And it's not so much "people butthurt by Irate Gamer" rather "Irate Gamer butthurt by people"

Thanks for stopping by Geoff!

U.S.A.!!!