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 Post subject: Re: Shin Megami Tensei (and other ATLUS RPGs)
PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 1:11 pm 
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Tren just play 3 & 4. Technically speaking all the Persona games take place within the same universe, and while the stories may not directly tie in together it probably wouldn't hurt.

Out of curiousity, I have Persona 3 & I think I also have Persona 3 FES, never played either though. Would it be to my benefit to just skip the PS2 versions of Persona and play Persona 3 PSP? Is that the "superior" version? It sounds like the bonus dungeon in Persona 3 is sort of like a "Snow Queen's Quest" where it's some balls hard dungeon crawling bullshit that needs me to have min/maxed my ass off.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 1:54 pm 
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FES's the answer? Yeah, its pretty much the hardest core grinding I've ever had to do. And it tells you little if you played persona 4, which explains enough of the persona lore to cover what happens at the end of 3. And persona 3 portable's female story will feel more fresh since it changes a lot. Junpei social link anyone?

Though portable does take out all the rendered scenes to the point where the only animations are in the battle sequences. Oh and the MC can only use 1 type of weapon, the battle system is persona 4's battle system, as is the healing system. And its still not as fun as replaying persona 4.

But laura bailey is the voice actor for the female MC, so thats worth it enough for me.

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 Post subject: Re: Shin Megami Tensei (and other ATLUS RPGs)
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PSP version.

FES isn't worth it, that extra story is pretty annoying with what they do with Yukari, and she was bad enough already.

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 Post subject: Re: Shin Megami Tensei (and other ATLUS RPGs)
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I assume the extra story stuff can easily be found on YouTube or something. I guess I'll just stick with the PSP versions and try to sell the PS2 versions down the road for crazy money or something.

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 Post subject: Re: Shin Megami Tensei (and other ATLUS RPGs)
PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2011 6:12 pm 
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Yeah, listen to them, they're saying what I said, only in pithier, easier to understand statements.

By the way, NISA is so cool, they were having trouble with my credit card (since it had expired) so I had to reply and so they sent me a personalized message really soon after confirming everything. Now I can get ar tonelico so it can monopolize my time more than pokemon and that other thing I need to get done!
And oh yeah, school.

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 Post subject: Re: Shin Megami Tensei (and other ATLUS RPGs)
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So, I'm at the end of SMT: Persona, and I got all my Ultimate Persona, except I can't fucking equip any of them because I'm apparently SO awesome at the game that I'm not a high enough level before I finish the game. What kind of bullshit is that? Persona makes a lot of zero sense in that regard... why the fuck do I want to grind out to level 99 to use some bullshit ultra persona when all the story related final bosses are like 40 levels lower than that? Japan doesn't make sense sometimes.

That being said, I guess I'm grinding out 10 or so levels in those ruins, unless somebody knows the final dungeon is long and easy to get levels in.

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 Post subject: Re: Shin Megami Tensei (and other ATLUS RPGs)
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Finally finished SMT: Persona PSP. It was pretty quick once I got into the swing of things. Even the final boss fight was a breeze (it really helped having Nanjo & and the Main Character's final persona.) The ending was a little lackluster. I'm debating about trying out the Snow Queen Quest, probably not immediately after but at some future date after I've cleared out some of my portable backlog, and maybe before Persona 2 comes out on PSP.

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 Post subject: Re: Shin Megami Tensei (and other ATLUS RPGs)
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Are you ever going to play 3 and 4? I'll eventually get to 1 and 2 whenever I get my hands on a cheap psp.

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 Post subject: Re: Shin Megami Tensei (and other ATLUS RPGs)
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Furia wrote:
Are you ever going to play 3 and 4? I'll eventually get to 1 and 2 whenever I get my hands on a cheap psp.


Eventually, yeah. Unfortunately I'm playing Persona chronologically, or at least I want to, so I have to wait for the PSP versions to get localized since P2, pt. 1 was never properly brought over. I figure I have enough games on my plate where I can wait a while before I bother with 3 or 4, regardles sof if 2 is out or not.

EDIT: Although it sounds like P2: Innocent Sin is sort of a spin-off timeline that spawns into P2: Eternal Punishment which then connects to P3 & P4. From the sounds of everything though I'll be checking P3 out on the PSP, as it seems to be the superior version in terms of "Gameplay" with the exception of some anime cutscenes and the whole "The Answer" thing.

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 Post subject: Re: Shin Megami Tensei (and other ATLUS RPGs)
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Link wrote:
EDIT: Although it sounds like P2: Innocent Sin is sort of a spin-off timeline that spawns into P2: Eternal Punishment which then connects to P3 & P4. From the sounds of everything though I'll be checking P3 out on the PSP, as it seems to be the superior version in terms of "Gameplay" with the exception of some anime cutscenes and the whole "The Answer" thing.

Nope.

P2: Innocent Sin is an important part of the two 2 games. Eternal Punishment deals directly from the events of that game and even some of the first Persona. I hear it can be enjoyed on it's own, though.

3 and 4 have absolutely nothing to do with the other games except:

- Igor and the Velvet Room is there
- Personas are still taken from normal SMT enemies
- The 1 and 2 characters get mentioned on the TV if you watch on the right day, but not by name and just vague description.

3 is it's own beast with it's own villains and monsters that have nothing to do with the first games, and 4 has nothing at all to do with any of them but:

- The town in the game, Inaba, is named after a P1 or 2 character as an injoke
- You visit the P3 school at one point and meet one social link character from that game and the creepy doctor, along with a few locals from that game with references to STREGA and playing the opening song of P3 FES

You won't be lost at all, I say play 3 since 2 has very different gameplay from both 3 and 4, then play 4 if 2 isn't out yet because it's fantastic.

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 Post subject: Re: Shin Megami Tensei (and other ATLUS RPGs)
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Fun Fact: SMT If... is actually a prequel to the events of Persona. The PS2 Devil Summoner games are also prequels to the entire Persona franchise and/or timeline, interestingly enough. Not that I'm going to make a huge deal about playing Devil Summoner before playing the other Persona games, but I just thought it was neat.

Btw, the Persona 3 anime series thing, is that a tie-in or an adaptation or what?

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 Post subject: Re: Shin Megami Tensei (and other ATLUS RPGs)
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Btw, the Persona 3 anime series thing, is that a tie-in or an adaptation or what?

A sequel with barely any of the cast from that game.

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 Post subject: Re: Shin Megami Tensei (and other ATLUS RPGs)
PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2011 11:21 pm 
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Btw, the Persona 3 anime series thing, is that a tie-in or an adaptation or what?

A sequel with barely any of the cast from that game.


Is it something you can watch or stand alone or does it spoil P3 or is it generally confusing for people who aren't familiar with P3's events and/or universe?

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 Post subject: Re: Shin Megami Tensei (and other ATLUS RPGs)
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Btw, the Persona 3 anime series thing, is that a tie-in or an adaptation or what?

A sequel with barely any of the cast from that game.


Is it something you can watch or stand alone or does it spoil P3 or is it generally confusing for people who aren't familiar with P3's events and/or universe?

Haven't seen it nor do I plan to. There's only one character from that game who actually has a role and it's support. I don't care for series that promise a sequel and don't even have the characters you want to see for said sequel.

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 Post subject: Re: Shin Megami Tensei (and other ATLUS RPGs)
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Trinity souls was one of the worst anime series I've ever seen speaking simply from the narrative. It's has some gorgeous looking style though. Watching it depreciated my personal value for the entire franchise.

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Trinity souls was one of the worst anime series I've ever seen speaking simply from the narrative. It's has some gorgeous looking style though. Watching it depreciated my personal value for the entire franchise.


Just a weak story or just bad story telling (IE. confusing as shit and mired in continuity.)

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 Post subject: Re: Shin Megami Tensei (and other ATLUS RPGs)
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Trinity souls was one of the worst anime series I've ever seen speaking simply from the narrative. It's has some gorgeous looking style though. Watching it depreciated my personal value for the entire franchise.


Just a weak story or just bad story telling (IE. confusing as shit and mired in continuity.)


Both, more confusing as shit then mired in continuity. The series to me had a lot of real potential. It has some great art and it was a spin off to my favorite modern day game franchise, but it all seemed to fall apart for me. The story is confusing, some of the continuity from the games to the series gets lost in translation, there are a few really senseless underdeveloped generic anime twists, and alot of the characters seemed pretty hollow to me in contrast to the characters in game. Overall I'd say it's a pretty average anime according to my sense of value. I'd put it slightly just above a FOX KIDS anime. It's worth watching though if you're a fan. I don't know if you'll stick through it to the end. I did, and I didn't think it was worth it.

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 Post subject: Re: Shin Megami Tensei (and other ATLUS RPGs)
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Bummer. I'll probably check it out after I get to Persona 3, however I'm actually playing Radiant Historia on the DS right now. Only 30 minutes in, but I like that they stuck with a "sprite" design. Feels like an SNES game.

Also, the combat system is a little strategic, which is nice. You get more EXP based off mixing up your abilities and attacks and how you position your enemies with knockback attacks, etc., so you can't just sit there spamming "Attack" to kill everything. Well, I suppose you could but you wouldn't be rewarded as well.

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 Post subject: Re: Shin Megami Tensei (and other ATLUS RPGs)
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Re-Playing Persona 4.

Still incredibly addicting. I also still seem to misread situations on Yumi's social link. Thankfully Chie's is easy to figure out. On Kanji's dungeon right now.

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I'm starting to remember why I hate fighting Mitsuo's shadow.

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