I don't see Harely working in this universe, it would feel like a retread of the Joker plot with boobs. On top of that, she's really gimmicky and doesn't really seem to fit in the world Nolan is making.

The Clock King would be an excellent villain for a film, but highly unlikely I think. He's fairly obscure as far as the gallery is concerned, back there but in front of Calendar Man. Cat Man is way back there somewhere. Maybe we need to be ready for Hugo Strange! Get serious man.

Of all the options you've laid before this collective, I think that what we can PROBABLY expect is the appearance of perhaps RUPERT THORNE http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rupert_Thorne, and the inclusion of Deadshot or, as suggested, an 'original villain'. Somebody's gotta hire Floyd. He doesn't work for free, people. With how the films have closed off so many avenues, Thorne jumps to mind as an old stand by and convenient for plot reasons. Someone will consolidate after Joker and Two-Face tore things up and an old head, as it were, is a sensible choice. Naturally, the boss never takes on the Bat directly so somebody else has to step to the plate, and after using Deadshot in Gotham Knights the licensing issues and 'who has who' shit that DC normally doesn't have too much trouble with are fairly moot. Thorne's whole 'elect me Mayor and outlaw Batman' thing would also fit neatly into a third installment.

Black Mask would be neat but you're just entertaining your fancy man. Get back in the dugout with Link's Loony List.

My money's on Thorne/Hitman X (Deadshot?), Clayface or Mad Hatter being the antagonist(s) in the next film, in that order of likeliness.

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EDIT: Also, we are more likely to be the villains in this next movie than Harley Quinne is.

You're thinking of a direct translation of the character. But what if you start her off as as a more serious version of Harley Quinn but slowly but surely start to see more and more of Harleen Quinzell as her split personality disorder really starts to come true. As you see more and more Harleen, the more Harley starts to resemble the Harley we've come to know and love. But, you know, more Nolan-y.

There's really so much untapped potential (shut up) with this character. A psychiatrist who had treated the good Joker and was successfully turned by him, only to be tossed aside by him like a rag and quickly forgotten. Only her "love" for the Joker is forcing her to try and save him even though deep inside that's the last thing she wants to do.

In the meantime she has collected the remaining rogues to execute a plan that will free the joker and destroy batman.

In the meantime, Batman is trying to get to the bottom of Harley (shut up), stop her and the rogues, fend off the city as they want him dead and continue to struggle with juggling the life of batman and bruce.

He doesn't have to be in the movie. A good story writer could work around that and even make a fantastically epic story out of it. If you can't work around that, then you plain and simply suck and shouldn't even have a chance of working with Nolan.

Puddle Jumper, look. Here's what you do. Head down to the nearest clown college and just start hitting on every girl clown you can find. There, you can get what you're looking for.

But it's not going to happen here. What you are suggesting is a delusional fanboy wish.
If I had mine, it'd be Hush, as he's my favorite, but it's just not realistic, hence, a wish.



Link: Yes, an epic end to a trilogy. So the destruction of the myth then? That would make sense for your Clayface scenario or the Thorne campaign thing.

Thank you for insulting my fucking intelligence here. I am not defending Harley Quinn because I wanna bone her. Her being in that movie is a valid option and one that could even be one of the most realistic ones if you want to look at it as a trilogy. Otherwise, there aren't a lot of candidates. You've got Scarecrow (would be cool to see him step up to a bigger part), Zsasz (meh), Joker (but we know it won't be him) and R'as (would be awesome to see him back. If only because Liam Neeson is fucking awesome) because his shtick is resurrection. If you bring in a new villain at the end of the trilogy, he'll most likely just be a villain of the week.

Also, look at it this way:

Motif: Getting Joker out
Means: The rest of the rogues and terrorist actions
Collateral: Batman's status with the city continues to worsen as The Joker's legacy continues to rampage over the city.

Harley is a very good option if you want things to escalate for a grand finale.

Hush isn't a great character.

There's really no point in guessing or speculating.

Scarecrow and Joker have been more psychological villains.
Introducing a "turr duur me smash batman" character into things wouldn't fit.

I wish this wasn't true. Loeb forgot to develop the character and left that to other writers. It was a great idea with horrible execution, like nearly everything Loeb has ever done ever.

I agree with this, read up on him in the Secret Six. He's actually a very complex and interesting character, but still very twisted. He could make a great villain, maybe even the main if treated right.

Keep in mind he'd need to also be mostly CG. I'm kinda wary of the whole film to be honest. Remember the Spiderman trilogy? Nolan might decide that none of the characters on their own can support a full film.

Not exactly, Bane's thing is that he can get super strong, he doesn't have to bulge out like the Hulk, just lift a car.

My only plea for this movie is that Bale ditches that God-Damn "Batman-Voice"

Well if Tom Hardy is going to play the villain as rumored right now I would assume it would be a relatively charismatic character. Personally I would like to see Deadshot or Black Mask but for some reason I don't see either happening.

There might be the problem with the magic potion shit, considering Nolan is going for a more realistic approach, but yeah, I could see this working.



I fucking hate fanboys ...