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 Post subject: Final Fantasy VIII: Squall Is Dead!
PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 12:32 pm 
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read em and weep boys and gals
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Points are actually valid, they make sense and shit does hit the fan...your thoughts?

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 Post subject: Re: Final Fantasy VIII: Squall Is Dead!
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Interesting theory. It would explain why the plot turned to shit and "coincidental" from Discs 2 onward.

Guardians gave us amnesia, we all grew up together in an Orphanage where Edea was the matron! hur hur hur!

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 Post subject: Re: Final Fantasy VIII: Squall Is Dead!
PostPosted: Thu Feb 18, 2010 12:45 pm 
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Interesting theory. It would explain why the plot turned to shit and "coincidental" from Discs 2 onward.

Guardians gave us amnesia, we all grew up together in an Orphanage where Edea was the matron! hur hur hur!


And Irving knew the whole time but didn't tell anyone, even when going to Assassinate said matron...

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 Post subject: Re: Final Fantasy VIII: Squall Is Dead!
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Despite FF8's plot, I will say it had good boss battles... although that's not what this topic is about. :)

Note: I moved this. I realize FF8 was on the PC. But FF is primarily associated with Playstation, so I figured I'd just keep it here.

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 Post subject: Re: Final Fantasy VIII: Squall Is Dead!
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The theory made perfect sense for me since FFVIII had tons of WTF moments, the plot twists were too convenient IMO. I know its not official and all but I'll take this explanation any day.

oh and I'm cool with the move Link.

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 Post subject: Re: Final Fantasy VIII: Squall Is Dead!
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 Post subject: Re: Final Fantasy VIII: Squall Is Dead!
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 Post subject: Re: Final Fantasy VIII: Squall Is Dead!
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I don't buy it. This is just like the whole: Rinoa is Ultimicia theory, which only seemed slightly more plausible in my opinion.

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 Post subject: Re: Final Fantasy VIII: Squall Is Dead!
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Really interesting reading. I remember feeling something was very off with the story in FFVIII when playing it, and the first time I saw the ending I really thought Squall was dead. This theory makes the story much more interesting. I'm gonna choose to believe it just because of that.

Oh, and that picture of faceless Squall sure is the stuff of nightmares.

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 Post subject: Re: Final Fantasy VIII: Squall Is Dead!
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my favorite part of ff8 is I WONT LET ANYONE EVER REFER TO ME IN THE PAST TENSE

that is one self-centered motherfucker!

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 Post subject: Re: Final Fantasy VIII: Squall Is Dead!
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 Post subject: Re: Final Fantasy VIII: Squall Is Dead!
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Reading this article made the FFVIII story seem more understandable.

And the faceless Squall didn't give me nightmares but I did sit there going "wtf?".

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 Post subject: Re: Final Fantasy VIII: Squall Is Dead!
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Fuck Final Fantasy VIII. Seriously, fuck that game, it sucks.

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 Post subject: Re: Final Fantasy VIII: Squall Is Dead!
PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 6:14 pm 
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As nice as it would be if that theory was true I'll still have to go with the fact that the game sucks because it just fucking sucks.

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 Post subject: Re: Final Fantasy VIII: Squall Is Dead!
PostPosted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 7:12 pm 
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:rabbid: Sense? FFVIII makes slightly more sense? :rabbid: I ... I never thought ... I'm sorry, I'm getting a bit emotional here.

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 Post subject: Re: Final Fantasy VIII: Squall Is Dead!
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Ninja Spencer wrote:
Reading this article made the FFVIII story seem more understandable.

And the faceless Squall didn't give me nightmares but I did sit there going "wtf?".
Spencer, why did you change your avatar to faceless Squall? To give all us members nightmares?

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 Post subject: Re: Final Fantasy VIII: Squall Is Dead!
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Ninja Spencer wrote:
Reading this article made the FFVIII story seem more understandable.

And the faceless Squall didn't give me nightmares but I did sit there going "wtf?".
Spencer, why did you change your avatar to faceless Squall? To give all us members nightmares?

Gah! :omg:

Thanks, I think I just peed a little.

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 Post subject: Re: Final Fantasy VIII: Squall Is Dead!
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 Post subject: Re: Final Fantasy VIII: Squall Is Dead!
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It is an interesting theory, but that is all that it is. Even the author of the page states that.

I was a big fan of the PS FF games 8 happened to be my favorite.
I even bought myself a gunblade at a con.

To accept this theory would be to push the writing staff into the fantastical, this theory talks about hints so subtle and heavily reliant on perspective that it seems crazy to me.

Reminds me of the plot of the FFX games. Everything seemed normal. They implied he traveled through time or space or something. Then the big trademark FF plot twist takes its toll... ooOoOo he was a ghost from the awesome futuristic maybe past, who played water soccer ooOOOoOoo fear his l33t sword skills obtained... as soon as he picks up a sword for the maybe first time in his life.

7,8 (if this is true), and 10 had some pretty fucked up stories. But at least they were held up the final aspect... until Square pumped out unnecessary sequels and offshoots. (to 7 and 10)


Either way i like the WYSIWYG look at it. Squal took a near fatal hit and survivied. The rest is just special effects and maybe symbolic cinematography. Either way this remains my favorite FF.
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Lotta talk about remaking 7 on kotaku, said it could take a few years to remake it properly.

Would you wait a full development cycle for a brand new FF7? Or would you rather see a FF14 sooner?
Personally i would rather see them redo 6,7,8, maybe 9 up to modern standards of interaction and the like than see them pump out more uninteresting sequels 14,15,16 (one or 2 of them you know would be an MMO sequel to FF11)

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 Post subject: Re: Final Fantasy VIII: Squall Is Dead!
PostPosted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 11:15 pm 
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Lotta talk about remaking 7 on kotaku, said it could take a few years to remake it properly.

Would you wait a full development cycle for a brand new FF7? Or would you rather see a FF14 sooner?
Personally i would rather see them redo 6,7,8, maybe 9 up to modern standards of interaction and the like than see them pump out more uninteresting sequels 14,15,16 (one or 2 of them you know would be an MMO sequel to FF11)

Agreed. I would give my left pinky finger for a complete remake of VII or VI. I think IX still does the trick, so that one doesn't really need a remake imo.
I've sort of lost interest in the new FF games, they're just too much about the haircuts. I'm going to play XIII, but I'll probably wait until the price drops. There are a lot of things that bug me about it. Like the names. Snow and Lightning... what were they thinking!? :phew:

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