Worst Person in Comics Ever Tournament!!!

Mongo · **Posted:** Thu Nov 04, 2010 5:09 pm

YIBR has decided to have a tournament vs style for the worst content creator for comics ever be it writer or artist. We want you, the listeners to give us ideas for who should be invovlved in this tournament.

Who pisses you off the most?
Who ruins books for you the most?
Which artist makes your eyes bleed?
Which writer makes you scratch your head at their lack of common sense and story writing abilities the most?

We will be taking your ideas and putting them all in a battle to the death in a VS Tournament to find out who the shittiest person in comics is.

Joe Q/Dan Dido are not eligible for this.

Sheep Cannon · **Posted:** Thu Nov 04, 2010 5:32 pm

No Joe Q? Even though he still does the occasional art and story? I could understand not putting in Didio because he doesn't write or draw but that would be like disqualifying Jim Lee because he's a co-publisher with Didio.

If no Joe Q then I'll have to nominate the following:

Frank Miller - the guy lost it a long time ago, more so the the likes of Jeph Loeb because both Millers writing and art have been pretty terrible.

Grant Morrision - believe it or not but I almost don't want to put him here. They guy has his own following and gets a lot of respect from the industry, but this is a personal preference choice. If he comes on a book I'm reading I instantly drop it.

walky · **Joined:** Sat Apr 03, 2010 9:13 pm **Posts:** 194

And yet, Liefeld is still a contender. :teehee:

Can't think of any major comic book artist/writer, sadly. Mangaka's, maybe, but other than folks like Joe Q., not so much.
Edit: Had a thought, would Nick Simmons be eligible to be a contender?

Mongo · **Posted:** Thu Nov 04, 2010 5:47 pm

Sheep Cannon - We decided we didn't want really important editorial staff on this. Dan Dido has had his hand at writing in DC as well. He just had a run on Outsiders and might still be writing it, and wrote a Superboy run in the early 00's.

walky - Nick Simmons really shouldn't count because he just plagiarizing Kubo Tite. Liefield will count though lol

Koari · **Posted:** Thu Nov 04, 2010 7:39 pm

I was about to say inb4leifield, but I was too late.

Screw it, Leifield

Link · **Posted:** Thu Nov 04, 2010 11:44 pm

inb4 Kaiserhawk says Jeph Loeb.

Anyways, I think when everything is set in motion we should set up some polls/brackets and whoever is closest in their predictions will win some choice selected comic books from the "worst person ever". Will you be winning Youngblood, Ultimates 3, One More Day, Batman R.I.P., who knows what you'll get! Maybe we'll even take pity on you and include some GOOD comics too.

EDIT: Also, is it cool if I nominate someone or is that strictly against the rules to have staff members deceased or otherwise submit people to the tournament?

Beeslo · **Posted:** Fri Nov 05, 2010 2:10 am

We'd like to get a bracket of 16...so go ahead, Link.

Personally, I'm throwing JRjr and Ramos into the ring as far as horrible artists

Mongo · **Posted:** Fri Nov 05, 2010 2:45 am

I think we all know who I'm putting in this thing. Morrison.....you son of a bitch. I also got to say, I am not a fan of Paul Azaceta's art. He has cycled through some Spider-Man during brand new day and I just can't ever get into it at all.

Kaiserhawk · **Posted:** Fri Nov 05, 2010 9:13 am

Link wrote:

inb4 Kaiserhawk says Jeph Loeb.

>:{

Jeff Loeb...

Not only did he manage to ruin a decent supergroup iteration with the ultimates 3, he also managed to ruin the entire Ultimate universe with Ultimatum.

"But he wrote good Batman comits :'("

FUCK YOUR BATMAN COMICS! He made a series of comics that were just about How mad he was at how his son died (Red Hulk) and the rest of us had to suffer really stupid shit because of it. RED HULK PUNCHED UATU FOR FUCK SAKE.

EDIT:

Frank Miller...you all should know why.

Link · **Posted:** Fri Nov 05, 2010 9:25 am

Kaiserhawk wrote:

He made a series of comics that were just about how mad he was at how his son died (Ultimatum)

Fixed that for you. The parallels are more apparent in that then in Red Hulk.

Anyways, my suggestion may shock some folks, maybe not...

J. Michael Straczynski

Sure he did a lot of GOOD Spider-Man stuff, but somewhere, somehow, somebody (and maybe it wasn't him but he was writing the damn story) thought it would be great to retcon Gwen Stacy into fucking Norman Osborn and having his evil twin goblin children. I thought we were trying to escape the '90s at this point not relive them. Plus, while it was more Joey Q. he also managed to be partially responsible for the fuck up rush job of One More Day. It ultimately still was a pile of editorial mandate crap, but it was exceptionally bad because JMS wasn't paying attention to what was agreed upon and tried to do his own thing/story/whatever.

But it's not only Spider-Man he's ruined, he's got a lot of fuck ups throughout the past decade, whether he was sick or not paying attention or busy or whatever, Thor took like 2 or 3 years to come out with 12 issues, I swear to God. Wonder Woman is already going into delayed status and I think Superman is too. Also, I can't speak for Superman but Wonder Woman is probably the most uninspired boring thing ever. I was excited for the comic, I'm giving it a shot, but it's ultimately a really generic action movie right now, when you're dealing with Gods and Goddesses how can you NOT make that shit totally balls to the wall awesome?

So, yeah, JMS is my nomination into the mix, he's done too much to comics that outweigh his good, just like Jeph Loeb.

Kaiserhawk · **Posted:** Fri Nov 05, 2010 9:37 am

Link wrote:

Kaiserhawk wrote:

He made a series of comics that were just about how mad he was at how his son died (Ultimatum)

Fixed that for you. The parallels are more apparent in that then in Red Hulk.

I though most of his work relates to how his son died now.

Link · **Posted:** Fri Nov 05, 2010 9:41 am

Kaiserhawk wrote:

I though most of his work relates to how his son died now.

Captain America White seemed to be going in a good direction, too bad they never did anything with it since he became all ultra popular marvel guy.

Sheep Cannon · **Posted:** Fri Nov 05, 2010 9:48 am

Link wrote:

Kaiserhawk wrote:

He made a series of comics that were just about how mad he was at how his son died (Ultimatum)

Fixed that for you. The parallels are more apparent in that then in Red Hulk.

Anyways, my suggestion may shock some folks, maybe not...

J. Michael Straczynski

Sure he did a lot of GOOD Spider-Man stuff, but somewhere, somehow, somebody (and maybe it wasn't him but he was writing the damn story) thought it would be great to retcon Gwen Stacy into fucking Norman Osborn and having his evil twin goblin children. I thought we were trying to escape the '90s at this point not relive them. Plus, while it was more Joey Q. he also managed to be partially responsible for the fuck up rush job of One More Day. It ultimately still was a pile of editorial mandate crap, but it was exceptionally bad because JMS wasn't paying attention to what was agreed upon and tried to do his own thing/story/whatever.

But it's not only Spider-Man he's ruined, he's got a lot of fuck ups throughout the past decade, whether he was sick or not paying attention or busy or whatever, Thor took like 2 or 3 years to come out with 12 issues, I swear to God. Wonder Woman is already going into delayed status and I think Superman is too. Also, I can't speak for Superman but Wonder Woman is probably the most uninspired boring thing ever. I was excited for the comic, I'm giving it a shot, but it's ultimately a really generic action movie right now, when you're dealing with Gods and Goddesses how can you NOT make that shit totally balls to the wall awesome?

So, yeah, JMS is my nomination into the mix, he's done too much to comics that outweigh his good, just like Jeph Loeb.

You know I totally forgot about when I hated JMS, thanks Link lol

Link · **Posted:** Fri Nov 05, 2010 10:01 am

Also, if I can nominate someone else, an artist, I nominate Greg Land.

Guy is a copycatting photoshopping douchebag. He takes laziness and art theft to a new extreme, but the guy keeps getting work because he makes pretty covers with sexy girls.

Traces photos...

Steals artwork...

Traces/uses pornographic pictures for his work and makes everyone woman he's ever "drawn" look like she's DTF...

Recycles his own shit due to laziness...

JRjr and Liefeld may not be the best artists in some people's eyes, but at least they can draw and be called artists.

Kaiserhawk · **Posted:** Fri Nov 05, 2010 10:11 am

Link wrote:

At a glance that looked...different.

Link · **Posted:** Fri Nov 05, 2010 10:16 am

Kaiserhawk wrote:

Link wrote:

At a glance that looked...different.

My point is made.

BuddyBaker · **Posted:** Fri Nov 05, 2010 11:20 am

Worst Writer: James Robinson - Cry for Justice was a terribly written out of character P.O.S. His JSA stuff has been similarly awful. Also, the guy has no class. He killed of a baby for shock value. Seriously? Thats lame.

Worst Artist: Joe Madureira - His stuff on Ultimates 3 was cringe inducing. Along with Loebs not so great writing, they ruined the Ultimates. I can't say I've liked his other stuff ether.

On another note, I don't think Liefeld is the worst artist ever. Thats not to say he is amazing or anything like that, I just think people hate on him for hating on him sake.

Beeslo · **Posted:** Fri Nov 05, 2010 12:09 pm

BuddyBaker wrote:

On another note, I don't think Liefeld is the worst artist ever. Thats not to say he is amazing or anything like that, I just think people hate on him for hating on him sake.

Weird heads, big ass chests and shoulders, can't draw feet so he hides them whenever he can. You can give the guy a break at the beginning of his career as all comic artist naturally evolve their style and learn how to make things look better. Except for Liefeld.

Link wrote:

Kaiserhawk wrote:

Link wrote:

At a glance that looked...different.

My point is made.

I feel like the fat guy in Mallrats. I'm staring at the magic eye, but I just can't see the fucking boat! What am I missing between this panel and the one above it?

UPDATE: Nevermind. I was misdirected by the captions. Thought you said this was an example of stealing...but rather its a tracing over pornographic pictures...and yeah, I see that.

Mongo · **Posted:** Fri Nov 05, 2010 12:15 pm

Beeslo wrote:

I feel like the fat guy in Mallrats. I'm staring at the magic eye, but I just can't see the fucking boat! What am I missing between this panel and the one above it?

You know what, there is no easter bunny! Over there is just a guy in a suit!

Shady-Lurker · **Posted:** Fri Nov 05, 2010 2:14 pm

For artist I'm going with Paul Azaceta.

I've hated his work in Spider-Man so friggin much. There's just something really off about it. Esspecially with Spidey himself. In certain panels he ends up looking fat or just really wide bodied and it throws me off completely.

Not sure about a writer yet (since Joey Q is out).

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