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 Post subject: Re: People being banned from XBL for making Swastikas in COD:BO
PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2010 9:20 am 
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I bet most kids 10-16 dont know what the swastika represents.



I knew before I was ten. Besides, most of those kids most likely know of 4chan and have figured it out there.

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 Post subject: Re: People being banned from XBL for making Swastikas in COD:BO
PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 4:26 pm 
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This is a Nazi one, usually on a red background

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This is the regular. used in religion as a peaceful symbol. The Nazis took this symbol from japan, rotated it 45% and called it their own

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you know who is a nazi if it is rotated. Some people do not know it. And it pisses me off when someone is against all forms of the symbol. It is not fair to those in religion who use it as a part of their faith. I do not think it should be banned if it is the the religion angle and its disrespectful to those who are in religion. sometimes the religion one will have dots between the brackets to make it more apparent that it is religion. but the guys who make CoD probably wouldn't know that as they are part of ignorance

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 Post subject: Re: People being banned from XBL for making Swastikas in COD:BO
PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 4:40 pm 
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you know who is a nazi if it is rotated. Some people do not know it. And it pisses me off when someone is against all forms of the symbol.


That's what I was trying to say. people mad about of the symbol all together.

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but the guys who make CoD probably wouldn't know that as they are part of ignorance


this is the only downside.. All the a-holes using it, know why it's bad, so the ban is pretty justified. . . But still there's a point to be made. . . Swastikas, don't always = Bad.

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 Post subject: Re: People being banned from XBL for making Swastikas in COD:BO
PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 4:47 pm 
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you know who is a nazi if it is rotated. Some people do not know it. And it pisses me off when someone is against all forms of the symbol.


That's what I was trying to say. people mad about of the symbol all together.

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but the guys who make CoD probably wouldn't know that as they are part of ignorance


this is the only downside.. All the a-holes using it, know why it's bad, so the ban is pretty justified. . . But still there's a point to be made. . . Swastikas, don't always = Bad.


A LOT of religions and countries have swastika versions. some may mean different things but none have anything to do with Nazi's aside from similar look

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 Post subject: Re: People being banned from XBL for making Swastikas in COD:BO
PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 5:29 pm 
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I'm sure that people of those religions know that around 95% of the population have never seen any of those symbols above and will just interpret it as a nazi symbol. If so then the people of those religions should have enough common sense to just use a different emblem. I've never ever seen any of the symbols in the picture above, not even the celtic one and I'm Irish.

Also, the penalty for emblems isn't as bad as getting banned. Taken from the COD forums
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Users who create emblems that are sexually gratuitous or racially offensive.

• Minor offense: 2-week ban from using the emblem editor, emblem reset to default, emblem purchases wiped
• Major offense: Permanent ban from using the emblem editor


http://www.callofduty.com/board/viewtop ... 0&t=341470

I think the 360 version is handled a little differently, so here is Microsoft’s Director of Xbox Live Policy and Enforcement's view.
http://www.stepto.com/Lists/Posts/Post.aspx?ID=635

If anybody who still uses the swastika as their emblem in a religious context gets banned, Kakeh, let me know.

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 Post subject: Re: People being banned from XBL for making Swastikas in COD:BO
PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 6:13 pm 
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I'm sure that people of those religions know that around 95% of the population have never seen any of those symbols above and will just interpret it as a nazi symbol. If so then the people of those religions should have enough common sense to just use a different emblem. I've never ever seen any of the symbols in the picture above, not even the celtic one and I'm Irish.

Also, the penalty for emblems isn't as bad as getting banned. Taken from the COD forums
JD 2020 wrote:
Offensive emblem makers
Users who create emblems that are sexually gratuitous or racially offensive.

• Minor offense: 2-week ban from using the emblem editor, emblem reset to default, emblem purchases wiped
• Major offense: Permanent ban from using the emblem editor


http://www.callofduty.com/board/viewtop ... 0&t=341470

I think the 360 version is handled a little differently, so here is Microsoft’s Director of Xbox Live Policy and Enforcement's view.
http://www.stepto.com/Lists/Posts/Post.aspx?ID=635

If anybody who still uses the swastika as their emblem in a religious context gets banned, Kakeh, let me know.


I understand the argument of the ban, but it is still not entirely fair. Though I guess you can never be equally fair in this world. Would it be fair for them to ban Islamic symbols as 80% of America is gonna view that as a terrorist symbol even though it is not? No, it wouldn't. I blame people for being just entirely ignorant and stupid. I blame all of those little pricks online that just HAVE to act like that while the few that do not use it in the bad way re to sufferer in one way or another for it. I blame education for not properly teacher the difference between Nazi and religion for the fact that in the general populace, no one knows. I just hate when there is a group of nice people who can't express their religion because some evil jerks from the past used the same/similar symbol in an act of evil and thus they will now be prosecuted because of it.
this is how the world is though, no matter how stupid it is

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 Post subject: Re: People being banned from XBL for making Swastikas in COD:BO
PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 7:59 pm 
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Kakeh, I said it before and I'll say it again, do you really think these people are using the swastika as a religious symbol in the game? I will bet you that 99.9% of these people are doing it to be pricks and not for religious reasons. I totally understand that it is in fact a religious symbol, I get it, but it's not what people identify it with primarily anymore.

Also, for those pricks adding in the SS with the symbol I cannot explain how sick that makes me. Seriously, these kids need to look at graphic images of what the SS did. Fucking little spoiled punks have no god damn respect.

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 Post subject: Re: People being banned from XBL for making Swastikas in COD:BO
PostPosted: Tue Nov 30, 2010 8:01 pm 
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Kakeh wrote:
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This is a Nazi one, usually on a red background

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Actually, if you flip that image over a vertical axis, you get the Nazi Swastika


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 Post subject: Re: People being banned from XBL for making Swastikas in COD:BO
PostPosted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 9:24 pm 
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Classyman is right about how most people would make it for stupid reasons. more or less because they could,

Some of my friends did it, but I think they changed it after hearing about the bans and stuff

mines like a stallion on a shield or something, I reckon its pretty sweet, its just immature if you make it a swastika IMO

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 Post subject: Re: People being banned from XBL for making Swastikas in COD:BO
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I will bet you that 99.9% of these people are doing it to be pricks and not for religious reasons.


Unless you have a sampling error of .1%, I'm willing to bet the number is actually 100%. I would bet my left nut that nobody uses the swastika on a CoD game for any sort of religious purposes.

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 Post subject: Re: People being banned from XBL for making Swastikas in COD:BO
PostPosted: Sat Jan 01, 2011 1:16 am 
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 Post subject: Re: People being banned from XBL for making Swastikas in COD:BO
PostPosted: Sat Jan 01, 2011 1:22 am 
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They have the option to report people for their emblem. you go to their COD gamer card (or whatever it's called) and you 'Report Player' for 'Offensive Emblem.' Bam, donzo.

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