Arkham City pre order bonus outfits

Mr Black · **Posted:** Wed Sep 14, 2011 11:59 am

Havokk wrote:

the awesome thing is I loved the first game almost 100 percented it i have not read much or even seen much of this game knowing i was going to get over excited after watching this I CANT WAIT the first game was a prototype this will be the ultimate batman game.

Amen brother. I 100% the game twice and I think I may go for a third run before Arkham City comes out. Even though I do get information on the game for news coverage I'm doing my very best to stay away from story details. This is easily the game I've been looking forward to the most this year.

Ehsan · **Posted:** Sun Oct 09, 2011 12:14 am

Speaking of pre-order costumes, if you get Green Lantern on Blu Ray at Best Buy, you get a Sinestro Corps costume. This would have been a sweet deal if the movie was actually good. :-(

Fox · **Joined:** Tue May 27, 2008 1:07 am **Posts:** 1505

Instead of getting excited about all this pre-release DLC, it is starting to turn me off to the game altogether.

DLC for extra Batsuits
DLC for Catwoman
DLC for Robin
DLC for Nightwing

I mean geez the game isn't even out yet and you already have $30+ of DLC lined up. Remember when the first game had a free DLC pack? I'm sure the main game is going to be meaty enough and most of this stuff is just extra fluff suits and challenge maps you play once and are done with. But I know I'm going to want them. It seems like it might be better just to wait for the Game of the Year edition.

Mr Black · **Posted:** Tue Oct 11, 2011 5:34 pm

Fox wrote:

Instead of getting excited about all this pre-release DLC, it is starting to turn me off to the game altogether.

DLC for extra Batsuits
DLC for Catwoman
DLC for Robin
DLC for Nightwing

I mean geez the game isn't even out yet and you already have $30+ of DLC lined up. Remember when the first game had a free DLC pack? I'm sure the main game is going to be meaty enough and most of this stuff is just extra fluff suits and challenge maps you play once and are done with. But I know I'm going to want them. It seems like it might be better just to wait for the Game of the Year edition.

As excited as I am for Batman, and trust me I am VERY excited, I won't be getting any of this DLC. Once again it feels like the developer's trying to hold back content which is ready for the game's release in order to milk more money out of us gamers. I'll play the main game, enjoy it and get the inevitable Game of the Year edition when it's released with all this content. I will not support this kind of money-grubbing practice even on my most anticipated game of the 2011.

Fox · **Joined:** Tue May 27, 2008 1:07 am **Posts:** 1505

I think you are right Black

I mean it is to be expected that they will release this kind of stuff down the road but what is the point in telling us all of the features that are NOT INCLUDED IN THE GAME? It just seems to hammer home the fact that the retail release is the suckers version.

Right now I am thinking just rent the game and buy it when they release the fully loaded version.

Link · **Posted:** Tue Oct 11, 2011 6:18 pm

Fox wrote:

Right now I am thinking just rent the game and buy it when they release the fully loaded version.

This is how I feel with most DLC. But it's always a gamble. There's no guarantee you'll have a "GOTY" Edition, I was surprised they even did it with the first game.

Mr Black · **Posted:** Tue Oct 11, 2011 6:59 pm

Link wrote:

This is how I feel with most DLC. But it's always a gamble. There's no guarantee you'll have a "GOTY" Edition, I was surprised they even did it with the first game.

Yeah I was surprised too as the DLC was free for Arkham Asylum (or at least most of it was) but I can pretty much guarantee there will be a GOTY edition in about a year from now with all this content. Even if there isn't it seems all the DLC is either costumes of challenge mode characters. As much as I enjoy and am rather good at the challenge mode it's still not enough to justify my money especially so close to release when the the content SHOULD BE INCLUDED IN THE GAME!!

I'm really starting to hate this generation of gaming...

Ehsan · **Posted:** Tue Oct 11, 2011 8:22 pm

I just wish they would package everything into the game rather than to save it for DLC. It almost makes buying the original version moot simply because you're paying $60+ for the game and then getting nickel and dimed for every little thing. Now if it's post release DLC, I'm fine, since the purpose for DLC is to fix anything that was broken or to add longetivity to a game, not cut out content that can easily be on a disk. If I were to buy it, I'll just wait for the GoTY Edition.

Fox · **Joined:** Tue May 27, 2008 1:07 am **Posts:** 1505

Link wrote:

This is how I feel with most DLC. But it's always a gamble. There's no guarantee you'll have a "GOTY" Edition, I was surprised they even did it with the first game.

Price will drop to $20 in less than 6 months, just wait till Catwoman/Robin/Nightwing is deal of the week 50% off. You can probally build your own GOTY Edition for about $35-$40.

Link · **Posted:** Tue Oct 11, 2011 9:29 pm

It's really up to the developer to decide what "should be on the disc", and it really depends on how long ago the game was "Gold" or whatever and being manufactured, etc. If they're using these extra 2 months to develop DLC, then that's just how it goes. I just think they're offering too much content for too much money.

Just-Joe · **Posted:** Tue Oct 11, 2011 11:51 pm

Chances are I might just end up picking this up on a whim. But right now, I'm way too busy with other games.

Fox · **Joined:** Tue May 27, 2008 1:07 am **Posts:** 1505

Now the game requires an online pass for offline content to do the Catwoman missions. You still run into her during the game, but I guess she says you won't believe what I went through and a message pops up asking for $10.

So you either have to buy new or you can buy it used from Gamestop, which I guess is where most people would be buying it used from anyway so what was the point here? You want to curb used sales but used sales are okay from certain stores.

Just go ahead and require a cd key already. That is the road we are heading down anyway.

oneshotfinch · **Posted:** Fri Oct 14, 2011 8:34 pm

Getting quite pissed off with the online pass for SP content. Can't play it after my cousins as originally planned or even rent it. Now I need to but into their stupid shit and get it new at full price.

Link · **Posted:** Fri Oct 14, 2011 8:42 pm

Fuck this game. I'm am 100% in the boat that this game is everything that is wrong with the industry right now. Like, I can get behind some shit, but now requiring me to buy an online pass so I can access shit that isn't even ONLINE?! This is full blown retarded.

I actually am going to wait for a GOTY edition now if they make one. If not, I'll wait for an extremely cheap Steam sale or for the game to be new for 20 bucks or who knows what. In other words, I won't be playing this or discussing this on YIBR for at least a year.

Fox · **Joined:** Tue May 27, 2008 1:07 am **Posts:** 1505

CD keys for all console games in the next 2 years. Mark my words.

Link · **Posted:** Sat Oct 15, 2011 1:59 am

Fox wrote:

CD keys for all console games in the next 2 years. Mark my words.

It's blowing my mind, I mean... PCs have (for the most part with the exception of maybe EA) managed to move past all this shit. Why are Consoles just now going BACK to the dark ages of PC gaming?

Fox · **Joined:** Tue May 27, 2008 1:07 am **Posts:** 1505

Gamefly shipped it out to me

:-D

Mr Black · **Posted:** Mon Oct 17, 2011 4:18 pm

Good news for me I got a call from EB games to pick my copy up tomorrow! Downside: Tried to start my car this morning and either my battery or alternator's dead. Hoping just the battery because if not... don't know how I'm going to pick up Batman tomorrow.

Danimal Collective · **Posted:** Mon Oct 17, 2011 5:06 pm

I dunno if I'm going to pick up Arkham City right away... I mean, the first game didn't really do it for me but I do kinda want to see what those mechanics in Asylum will feel like in an open city environment. I'll probably get City next year when it's only 20 bucks. I don't see it being a must have, though.

Also: I got a pretty sizable rant about the industry right here

Fox wrote:

CD keys for all console games in the next 2 years. Mark my words.

Spoiler

My question is... is the gaming industry even in dire straits right now? I mean, they seem to be doing pretty damn good. I'll tell you, a majority of the trade-in games I see are not new games at all. For example, we've maybe gotten 2 copies of Gears of War 3 in since it was released. We got maybe 5 copies in of Dead Island. Madden 12... only like 3 copies. We're not seeing new games because who the fuck is going to buy a game for 60 bucks and then trade it in for less than half of what they paid right away? Almost all of our business is in games that are 3 years old or older. Actually, a lot of what sells almost immediately is N64 first party titles and systems. Our copy of Gears of War 3 has been sitting on our shelf for a couple of weeks. N64 systems and first party games, however, almost always go the same day (most of the time, same hour) they come in. Smash Bros. for the N64 is our most requested game by far. SNESs.... we sell those before they're even put in the display case most of the time.

My point is, I don't see how used game stores cut into the profits of new game sales so much that they NEED to do things like force us to pay for online passes or have a download codes for game companies to survive. Those things are only in place so they can squeeze every little bit of profit out of the consumer and it's so offensive because it's so blatant. Really, I usually buy on average three new games a year within the first week they're released. This year, I bought Portal 2, Deus Ex, Duke Nukem, Mass Effect 2 (PS3), Bulletstorm, and I'm going to buy the special edition of Uncharted 3 with all the little doodads... so I bought six brand new 60+ dollar games this year because I'm actually making real money for the first time in my life and I went a little overboard. Now add in all the download content I've bought and bam... I've spent a shitload. I consider myself to be an average consumer in terms of video games as well. In total, if you don't count retro games, I've bought at least 10 games brand new so far this year and like I said, six of those were at their highest price point. I know people who buy way more than I do in terms of video games. I refuse to believe that used game stores really hurt the industry bad enough that they need to put in measures like access codes.

The video game industry is an $18 billion dollar industry. The average game by the average developer makes between $10 million to $50 million for it's entire production run and games are relatively cheap to create. Some games are blockbusters. GTA IV made $310 million on it's first day. Here, check out this quote from an article about investment and stock trading on seekingalpha.com:

Quote:

In 2007, the industry sold 267.8 million games. That's 540 games sold every minute.

That is new games.... not used, not retro. Brand new games... and the article goes on to state that the industry doubled that number in 2008. I think the industry is doing pretty damn well and all this talk about them losing profits and needing to lay off workers and needing to curb used game sales is all complete bullshit. The video game industry is one of the most healthy and stable industries out there today.

Link · **Posted:** Mon Oct 17, 2011 9:38 pm

In terms of industry health, it really depends. They make one or two "flops" and all of a sudden they're bankrupt or merging with other companies.

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