I don't know. I didn't find the Wii U all that impressive to be honest. Not trying to hate on it, but it just seems like an update to what they tried with the Gamecube and Four Sword Adventures back in 2004 but with just a larger screen. It just seems like a flashy gimmick, but with no real substance. I'm all for Nintendo working more with 3rd party developers, but how much will we see of that compared to how much will just be shovelware? Plus how much will actually make it market? Kudos to them for finally making an HD system that can run in 1080i, but right now I'm just not drinking the punch.

If I'm to rank the conferences I might have to put it this way.

1. Sony: they showed new IPs, new tech and new footage. They're showing though wasn't that spectacular and just squeak out above Nintendo, but only barely.

2. Nintendo: no new IPs but they did show the Wii U. Still not sold on it and think everyone is just hyped like they always get when Nintendo shows off new tech. Plus how much are these controllers supposed to cost? I doubt less that $130. As time goes buy that interest will wane and it will barely ever get used to its full potential. Also why do people go crazy for Smash Bros? Its fun but it not a deep game.

3.Microsoft: This one was a bummer for me. I was hoping to see something new and exiting, and they just rolled out the same old shit. We new about Gears, Tomb Raider and Mass Effect. Dance Central looks cool andI'm sure some people will get excited by Halo 4, but the video was met with silence from the crowd.

The big three were pretty underwhelming for me this year.

http://www.comedycentral.com/videos/index.jhtml?title=fully-torqued&videoId=388009

I'm fully torqued over Uncharted III as well as Final Fantasy XIII-2.

Nintendo is untorquing me. It's cool they have a console, but there's no way that thing costs under 600 dollars. It's using a damn ipad as a controller.

E3 isn't a competition, dork. It's just a showcase. There aren't trophies at the end or an award ceremony for which company pounded each company in the dick the hardest. It's just an outlet to showcase new consoles, titles, and peripherals. So Nintendo didn't "win" anything. We can't all expect to be blown away every year by our favorite console maker, that would be impractical.



You're right Darkseid, I didn't care about Nintendo's conference. I honestly wasn't even going to pay attention to their conference until I heard they were showing a new console. Then it turned out the console was incredibly disappointing and was just the Wii all over again with a new controller. I offer up my opinion and you have a "clever" 4Chan joke to respond with. Sorry I'm not like the rest of you Nintendo automatons and am willing to buy a new console to play the same games over and over again. I'm sure you and the rest of the Nintentards got a great big boner when they showcased the new Zelda game. "Gee whiz! Another Zelda, AWESOME!" You all exclaimed in unison. Now you can save the princess for the 17,000th time and not feel like you've been conned for the past 26 years collectively.



Passable to me is crap. I don't play games for mediocrity. I don't play games to pass time, I play them because I enjoy them. I don't want to sit down with a new game I just bought and feel like I played this game already 15 years ago.



I certainly have played bad games. Who hasn't? I've played a lot of good games as well. The games Nintendo publish may be fun to you but I got over that feeling when I played all these titles back in the mid-90s on the SNES. At least back then Nintendo was dominating with 3rd party publishers so if I felt cheated by a Nintendo title there was an array of better 3rd party titles for me to rent at the video store.

I'm certain I struck a nerve with some of you Nintendorks. There's no reason to white knight for Nintendo. I'm sure Reggie isn't losing any sleep because nosebleed from The Game Heroes forums isn't excited about the new Wii-U. I'm sure they don't even care that I haven't purchased a new Nintendo console since the SNES. (I did buy some GameCube games when my ex-girlfriend had one.) I still hold a soft spot for Nintendo considering I grew up on the NES, SNES, and Game Boy but unlike Nintendo, times and people change.

If you want to buy a Wii-U and play the "new" Zelda game on it, go for it. As for me I honestly don't give a fuck if you want to wave a big white turd in the air and play titles I've already played.

The only problem with Four Swords Adventures on gamecube is that you needed the GBA and link cables as well as the GCN. The idea it self, was great and the game it self is fantastic. Don't be confused on why those linked games didn't work out ... it wasn't because of the concept it was because of the buy-in cost.

Here's my rundown:

Microsoft: You show games off the best ... but you never really have anything to show. I'm annoyed at what's happened to Call of Duty since 2, so Modern Warfare 3 is a bargain bin purchase to me, Gears of War was suppose to be on PC, but isn't due to your decisions, so I have no interest in that either. And don't think I didn't notice the name of the event being changed from Microsoft's press briefing ... to Xbox 360 Press Briefing.
Just further proof that PC Gaming alliance needs to make a collaborative show for E3. Seriously. Fucking do it, already.

Tomb Raider looks alright ... but honestly, I'm not seeing why I'd choose this over Uncharted. If it's similarly good, then cool, otherwise, I'm not interested.

Your press conference made a Tim Schafer game look boring. Halo 4? Don't care. 360 TV? Not really, looks like you'll need to have a TV service that integrates with your home network. Or it'll be a service through the net.

EA: Need for Speed Run looks terrible. I'm not against the idea of you getting out of a car in a Need For Speed game, in fact, some of their past games could have really benefited from it. But fuck you for making it nothing but quicktime events ... how in the hell does that add ANYTHING to the game!? If you wanted to make The Getaway ... but good with NFS racing ... That sounds awesome. What you showed me with The Run ... does not look awesome it looks tedious.

The new stuff from Battlefield 3 was great ... but I already have it pre-ordered, so ......

Don't care about sports games.

And I REALLY don't care about the sims.

UbiSoft: What the hell ... you had one of the strongest lineups of games in the entire show ... and you pick some assclown to make awful jokes through it!?! What the fuck is with third party publisher press events and shit like this!?

Far Cry 3 ... looks great. Looks like it's going back to the series' roots in jungle land (how did they ever leave it!?) but adds a much needed narrative onto the structure. I liked what I saw.

Ghost Recon Future Soldier looked very different than it did before, but I'm not opposed to bleeding that Conviction style into other Clancy titles.

Sony: Goddammit, I hate Jack Trenton. He just seems like the biggest corporate douche ever. They started strong with Uncharted 3 ... and then mentioned how they're Playstation every five minutes. I'm sure the show was fun for people who were there, but everything ended up looking like crap because it just HAD to be in reduced rendering 3D mode. Good call.

The NGP is named Vita ... guess what? I'm calling it PSP2 ... because that name is stupid.

The price point is actually pretty incredible for Sony. The bundling exclusively with AT&T is not. It looks like it has a great set of games, and I look forward to playing one ... but I'm not calling it Vita.

Nintendo: Hmm. This conference felt underwhelming ... but for an entirely positive reason: they had to spend time talking about hardware. So they had less time to focus on games. The lineup they're showing for 3DS is pretty spectacular:

Luigi's Mansion 2: AWESOME, I love the first one.
Super Mario 3D: Not as awesome ... it looked really weird. I'm sure it'll end up great, but ... it looked very strange almost like an imitation of a Nintendo 3D Mario game.
StarFox 64: Cool new features.
MarioKart: gliding and driving underwater? Interesting.

The Wii U.

What a stupid ridiculous unbelievably genius name.

On the one hand ... they've got the Wii name newer gamers will recognize. Even the unit itself is looking the similar. All which are likely being done to make new gamers comfortable. Then on the other hand they have this new controller that's totally pimp (it is) and a slew of proper third party support.

The idea that I can play some of my games from the console on the controller screen while someone else uses the TV is INSANELY useful. The ability to have a screen in my hand that enhances the game I'm playing on TV is something I've always liked. I remember the first time I tried resident evil on dreamcast and looked down to see my health status, it was awesome.

The FPS demo hint was very cool. I want to see something that uses that.

You're not going to be locked into one way of playing a game or even one place, and that is a very cool idea. I can only hope that Nintendo will also have games that will utilize 3DS in conjunction with Wii U.

As for cost ... I don't think it's going to cost that much. I mean, the hardware has gotten a lot cheaper, so a $250 price point for the console (again) wouldn't be impossible. The controller itself is likely going to be in the $60 range, considering it is not a dedicated device. The images being processed on it are streamed from the console itself. Without the console, the device is useless ... even if you're playing something exclusively on the Wii U controller.

I think next E3 ... Nintendo's going to have a lot of game announcements and information for Wii U and I actually expect a price drop on 3DS by then. I don't think 3DS will fare very well with the much more powerful PSP2 (I told you) which is at the same price point ... however, Nintendo likely understood this ... and released it when they did to get it's costs down.

So, I think Nintendo did the best job out of the "big three". Microsoft seems to not get the point of gaming again (They're back in that Hey here's shooters and sports games routine) ... and Sony just likes to say their name a lot, have fun watch the Sony presser and count how many times they say "PlayStation Brand".

Now, I'm looking forward to all the games on the show floor!

There's no way the console is going to cost 250 dollars. You're delusional.

I'm more worried about the cost of the controller. A screen that size with all the bells I can't imagine would be less than $100. Now imagine you want to get 3 more to play some party games with friends. You just added $300 which could be more than the console itself. Have we confirmed that you can have more than one Wiipad per console or do other players have to share or use wii motes?

Also battery life could put a real damper on things. If you have to charge it every 2 or 3 hours, most gamers are going to opt not to use it.

I'm not delusional. I'm going based on hardware cost, Nintendo history, and things like that. It'd be perfectly reasonable to see Wii U in the $250-$300 price range.

You've got a custom 45nm multi-core CPU from IBM, that'll likely clock in around $50-$70 USD per unit (mass production drives down cost), The GPU is being made by AMD and could be in the $70-$100 USD range (that's $120-$170 range if you're counting), the board manufacturing along with all the other components is around $40-$50 per unit ($160-$220).

The controller, is going to have bluetooth, gyroscope, accelerometer, various analog buttons a resistance touch screen, which is likely LED LCD ... all of that is going to be in the $40-$50 cost range. It does not have a dedicated GPU, it's CPU is likely very minimal just to get images from the wireless connection and get them on the screen.

Making the entire package in the $200-$270 cost range. Meaning the unit could be $250-$300 retail. With the controller (by itself) in the $60-$70 range for retail.

Just because you don't understand that special hardware costs less at cost and with a wider manufacturing plan, doesn't mean I'm delusional.

Just to note, the 3DS is different, it has different hardware requirements (it's more expensive to make smaller power efficient chips) as well as much newer tech, like the 3D screen. The cost of that device is still probably in the $180-$200 USD range.

Some developers at Nintendo have expressed, also, that you'd only need 1 or 2 of those controllers. The majority of experiences will still be driven by the Wii remote in multiplayer environments.

As for battery life ... consider that the controller is not a handheld, it's going to use a lot less power than, say, a DS Lite, which has astonishing battery life.

The Wii U looks amazing. I cant wait for it to come out. Simply mind blowing.

I'm gonna totally agree with Crono, tech price drops occur atleast every 3 months. Controller should be no more than 70$.

Now, Nintendo since the gamecube (or maybe the N64) has not really solidified itself as the primary console to own. This marketing strategy is what sets apart them from the other 2. They're more a complimentary or support console, like playing more on the ps2 than the gamecube. They've been the cheaper of the 3 the last decade I doubt they'd change it now.

Eh, $70 bucks is still rich for my blood. Then again, I doubt I'll need more than a single extra controller if I ever get one.

Why are some thinking the Wii U controller is going to be priced the same as a stand alone console?

It's going to be under $70 and if it isn't well Nintendo are just beyond stupid but that is NOT the case.

So after seeing the controller for the Wii U I just crapped my pants on how amazing it was. I mean it just made me think about how awesome it was when the Dreamcast had that similar (same?) deal on their controllers and how many different things it did outside of the game itself with the VMU. Plus the video chat and web browsing, that's like having a touchpad in your hands that can ACTUALLY game.

Then there's Sony and their Vita(mins?). I have to say it's sexy looking but the AT&T thing kinda makes me think of the NGage (Remember that?). I like it and as Crono, I too will be calling it the PSP2 since it's stupid trying to say "I just got the Sony Vita!". But anyways it's sexy but the AT&T bundle is what might repel people from embracing it 100%.

Anywho I have to agree with Crono about Sony liking to say Sony. I guess they're the Bob Dole of gaming and Bob Dole likes to say Bob Dole as much as Sony likes to say Sony. So drink up boys and girls cuz it's one hell of a great drinking game.

A: I don't agree with Crono on the pricing. He might be right on some of the component costs, but remember, a company won't build a unit for $X and sell that unit for $X. They'll sell it for $X+($X*.15). Which is a 15% markup. In other words.. they'll need to make a profit.

What makes me nervous about the price is when Geoff Keighley was interviewing Reggie, he asked if the Wii-U's price would be competitive with the current market. Reggie said the value would certainly be competitive, Geoff verified that the price would be comptetive and Reggie said, "See you're talking about price, and I'm talking about value. The Value of our console is going to be very competetive in todays market. . . " Which basically sounds like corporate talk for "It's going to be more expensive than what's out now, but we think the experience makes it worth it." to me. Although, it could also mean "we haven't decided on a price yet."

Either way, I doubt this thing is going to be cheap, but I don't think it'll be too outrageous. I think it'll be over $300 definitely. Maybe even between $400-500

not that much cheaper. and who's to say it doesn't have a decent size HDD? There's still over a year til this thing gets released, they could add all sorts of stuff. You guys can dream of this thing being <$300 all you want, but I'll just imagine it won't be. Then, if it is, i'll be pleasantly surprised, If it's not, I'll be expecting it.


also: http://kotaku.com/5809840/nintendo-talks-wii-u-pricing

The actual Wii U system should be above $250 at least and maybe $350 at most ($400 for the 3G AT&T version of the remote LMAO). Considering it's HD and it's new tech with all its features. It's what they're all saying anyways, since the estimate for the Japanese dudes are around ¥20,000 at least.

Street Fighter X Tekken- Watching Chunny and Cammy beat up on that stuck up bitch Nina... very satisfying.

Tekken 3D for the 3DS- I love how the 3DS is getting more fighting games now. God must love me.

I downloaded the trailer for resident evil revelations on my 3DS, the graphics look fucking amazing! I actually have pretty high hopes for this game now.

also downloaded the 3d trailer for super mario, It very much gives me a super mario 64 vibe, which is a VERY good thing IMO.