Soul Calibur 3 had Chronicle of the Sword. A Sort of Strategy/Fighting game.


It was cool.

....yeah, that's a MASSIVE stretch.

By that logic, every game ever made with physical conflict can be a fighting game, like GOD HAND, Final Fight or No More Heroes.

Quick question, anyone here play Soul Calibur 4 and if so, are there RPG elements in it?

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Because it's not serious enough? Rofl. It's a party game, which means it's meant to be played at parties and has other modes as opposed to a traditional fighting game. It's two different things not based on a level of seriousness. Also I just don't enjoy the game much.

The level of seriousness has little to do with the genre of a video game. Duke Nukem is very silly yet it's still a FPS. Call of Duty is serious (or tries to be) and it too is a FPS.

Once again, you fight against other human controlled players (or computer controlled players) in a side perspective on different arenas and there is a huge roster of playable characters you can choose from. So again I ask you, how is it not a fighting game? The main focus of Smash Bros is the fighting against other players with the other content being something to do on the side. This is what makes it a fighting game.

Just because it has more than a couple of generic game modes doesn't mean that it's a party game. It just means that you will get more replay value out of it and that there is a broader audience of gamers that can get into it, which is good for the developer, the gamers and the gaming industry as a whole.

Just because a game can be enjoyed at a party with a bunch of friends (Halo, Black Ops, Guitar Hero, MARVEL VS CAPCOM) doesn't automatically make it a party game.

Smash Bros is a fighting game.deal wit it

Mortal Kombat & Street Fighter, the ORIGINAL party games folks.

Face it man, your logic is flawed. Smash Brothers is as much of a party game as Halo or Left 4 Dead is. Just because it doesn't fit inside your sterile little box of predefined expectations of a Fighting Game doesn't mean it's not one.

As I already pointed out Mortal Kombat has MANY different modes (Chess, Action Adventure RPG Modes, Puzzle Game, and fucking GO-CART RACING!) Yet, I'm sure you wouldn't call Mortal Kombat a party game, so why is Smash Brothers called a party game when it's "extra modes" (Break the Target, Home Run Contest, and Multi-Man Melee) are significantly LESS robust than what Mortal Kombat has done in the past?

As for Race to the Finish, Dungeon Crawling, and other things in the Adventure Mode, Mortal Kombat AND Street Fighter had various little mini-games interjected into the single player mode as well, and once again they AREN'T considered Party Games.

To finalize my point here, ALL OF THESE EXTRA MODES ARE ONLY AVAILABLE IN SINGLE PLAYER MODE! There is no Multi-Man Melee, Home Run Contest, etc. for MULTIPLAYER, which is 100% counter-intuitive to the description and concept of a PARTY GAME (which btw, in MK and Street Fighter those mini-games can be done in MULTIPLAYER.) The only thing you can do in Multiplayer is FIGHT IN AN ARENA AGAINST OTHER OPPONENTS, which is exactly what you do in FIGHTING GAMES.

At the absolute WORST you can say about Smash Brothers is that it's not as nearly robust or in depth of a FIGHTING GAME as games like Street Fighter, Mortal Kombat, etc. Just because it doesn't fit into the box of your traditional fighting game, isn't "up to par" with the heavy hitters, or suck at it and/or dislike it and refuse that there's a fighting game out there that you don't like and/or aren't good at, doesn't mean it's not a fighting game!



PS. Don't forget Soccer, Volleyball, Baseball, etc. in Rival Schools! Not to mention aside from this the Japanese game had a "Create-A-Character" mode where you attended classes and went through a school year and played mini-games, etc. to create your stats and other stuff.

While everything else you said is completely on the ball, you can actually do Multi man brawl and Home Run contest with 2 players, if I remember correctly.

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Seriously there are those modes but that's mainly an extra to the SINGLE PLAYER. It's there but I just found it annoying as fuck to do that unless it was something like parry practice. It's a microgame but it doesn't bring anything important to the game where as Smash thrives off these modes. It's a fighter to you guys but to me it's just a more off-beat party game like Power Stone.

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Most of these are really opinion rather than fact. For most of the fighting fans, such as myself, the games don't really need extra game modes. The replayability really comes from the engine itself, while experimenting with different fighters and styles. Those minigames don't really add to the appeal of buying of the game for the average fighting fan, but it rather is a supplement or afterthought.

And the term party game is a pretty broad term, because going to the most basic definition, they are games that go well with parties, so they will most likely be relevant to games that are easy to play for anybody. Games like MvC 2 and Super Smash Bros can most definitely be considered party games.

Jump Ultimate Stars too.

Smash to me is a fighting game,,, cus well,,, you fight. IS MARIO KART A RACING GAME?

if you wanna deep technical fighting game where skill wins over button bashing then, SFZ3, VF5, and SSB are the best about...

What annoys me is if Mike were here he would get into the full on technicality of fighting games and go on about the technical details and frames etc for Street Fighter IV, Tatsunoko, MvCII, etc. While there is a niche group of tournament fighters and professionals who are into that competitive arena, and yes as Mike mentions a million times over, fight sticks greatly enhance these games, Smash Brothers to me is fun in that its easy to pick up and play casually, and there is a TON of fan service to fans, especially in melee, and brawl to an extent too,

While many people can argue "pure" fighting games are those with all the technical details and neccesities of a fightstick, any game involving two or more combatants beating the shit out of each other is a fighting game, it really comes down to your personal interpretation, some like the technical details of fighting games, some people just like Sub-Zero smashing Scorpion to pieces and others just love to spam Pikachu's thunderbolt attack in Smash Bro's

They won't ever admit that Smash Bros is a fighter because they are insecure idiots that can't accept the fact that Smash Bros is better than what they consider to be hardcore professional fighting games.

it's kind of how like most gamers hate on casual gamers even though they have zero effect on anyone else or how people that get into single player games freak out when they announce that a game that was previously a single player experience will have multiplayer in it's sequel. Games can and should be enjoyed by many different people from all walks of life, and just because Smash Bros is a game that doesn't automatically alienate gamers looking to jump right into a fighter, doesn't mean that it's not a fighting game. Grow up fans of fighting games...

I'm confused with your stance Link...