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 Post subject: DC Rebooting the enitre DCU
PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 7:09 pm 
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It's been posted elsewhere, but thoughts?
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 Post subject: Re: DC Rebooting the enitre DCU
PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 7:39 pm 
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I'm going to punch something.

You do this every few years, DC. Stop it.

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PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 10:23 pm 
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You do this every few years, DC.


Actually, they've never done this before. It's usually Marvel doing this. The closest DC has ever done is One Year Later.

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PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 10:31 pm 
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You do this every few years, DC.


Actually, they've never done this before. It's usually Marvel doing this. The closest DC has ever done is One Year Later.

Crisis on Infinite Earths.

Zero Hour.

Infinite Crisis.

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PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 11:27 pm 
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You do this every few years, DC.


Actually, they've never done this before. It's usually Marvel doing this. The closest DC has ever done is One Year Later.

Crisis on Infinite Earths.

Zero Hour.

Infinite Crisis.


yep, although zero hour was mostly batman

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 Post subject: Re: DC Rebooting the enitre DCU
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Marvel fucks with the status of things a lot (which is annoying), but I can't recall them completely changing history without having to just undo it a few months later. With DC, it's mostly for good.

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 Post subject: Re: DC Rebooting the enitre DCU
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Marvel fucks with the status of things a lot (which is annoying), but I can't recall them completely changing history without having to just undo it a few months later. With DC, it's mostly for good.


The closest Marvel ever came was the Heroes Reborn line, but that was an alternate universe.

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I still haven't decided on how I feel about a complete reboot given that I really love a lot of the stuff from the past few years and I wanted to see these plotlines progress. But, having said that though, the Geoff Johns and Jim Lee Justice League book sounds fan-fucking-tastic! No more third stringers, no more James Robinson.

I'm going to wait until they release more info (probably from SDCC) to decide on how I feel about all of this.

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So what does this mean exactly?

Is all past continuity being tossed away and everything is going back to square one?

Or is everything just being labeled "#1" and some people are getting new costumes?

They seem to be being kind of vague...that or I'm just reading things wrong :-? .

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 Post subject: Re: DC Rebooting the enitre DCU
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Some minor notes I've come across

- Starting with Justice League #1 every DC title will be released digitally on the same day. Also noticed they're just The Justice League. It makes more sense from them to not be affiliated with any country specially.

- A lot of characters are going to get new costumes and origins. They haven't flat out said who and what, but the first piece of art of Justice League reveals a bit.

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Right off the bat you can tell that Superman, Wonder Woman, Aquaman, and Green Lantern look pretty young.

-Grant Morrison is going to be working on a new Superman book; although it has not been revealed which nor has it been revealed if he is (finally) leaving Batman.

-Geoff Johns is going to be at the helm for GL, Aquaman and Justice League. Of those, only Green Lantern's artist hasn't been named.

-We can now expect Batwoman #1 to finally come out sometime after August 31st. This one is more of a really easy guess on my part.


Now there are a few things I'm still confused on. If the whole DCU is getting a reboot, what does that mean for titles like Batman Inc, Green Lantern Corps, Green Lantern Emerald Warriors and other titles that exist solely for the reason that some characters backstories have gotten so rich that they spawned off other titles? What about the rest of the books coming out prior to the relaunch? Does any of it really matter if they start fresh in a few months? How long can we really expect this renumbering it last with books like Action and Detective Comics so close to being the first books to legitimately hitting 1000? Lastly, what of characters like Willy West, Jay Garret, Guy Gardner, Kyle Rayner, John Stewart and Dick Greyson who all share a same moniker as their more popular counterparts in the new Justice League?

I will say this much right now. This reboot, or whatever you want to call it is mostly likely not going to change my appreciation for DC books in the grand scheme of things. I don't mind change as long as it stays true to the nature of the characters. The best I can do is wait and hope that my favorites make it through to this new era of DCU.

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 Post subject: Re: DC Rebooting the enitre DCU
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Sheep Cannon wrote:

-We can now expect Batwoman #1 to finally come out sometime after August 31st. This one is more of a really easy guess on my part.

Lastly, what of characters like Willy West, Jay Garret, Guy Gardner, Kyle Rayner, John Stewart and Dick Greyson who all share a same moniker as their more popular counterparts in the new Justice League?


Batwoman was resolicited to September, which makes sense in hindsight. As an aside, I'm really looking forward to that book.

As for Wally West & Co, I'll be really bummed to see these characters gone or reverted back to their original status (ex. Grayson as Robin). I'm also worried about DC's smaller books, like Secret Six & Batgirl. I don't want to see Babs back as Batgirl, Stephanie Brown is such an awesome character.

Via CBR

- Expect new creative teams on books that "aren't working"
- No Gail Simone on BoP #1 (again)

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I don't want to see Babs back as Batgirl.


Maybe it's just because I'm friends with Ray Tate, but I see this as one of those staples of the DC universe where she's just going to be crippled all the God damn time no matter what happens.

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 Post subject: Re: DC Rebooting the enitre DCU
PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 9:12 am 
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I don't want to see Babs back as Batgirl.


Maybe it's just because I'm friends with Ray Tate, but I see this as one of those staples of the DC universe where she's just going to be crippled all the God damn time no matter what happens.


Good. She's a positive representation of handicapped person in the DCU.

Oh yeah on the whole renumbering of Detective and Action comics:

BleedingCool wrote:
And yes CBR, Action Comics and Detective Comics are both restarting from #1. That doesn’t prohibit century anniversary titles in the future though.

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 Post subject: ATTN: DC COMICS
PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 12:25 pm 
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Go FUCK yourselves.

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I swear, if they replace the current Bat-Woman....

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I swear, if they replace the current Bat-Woman....

I doubt they will. She's part of their diversification plans.

Stephanie Brown is an awesome Batgirl. That series was consistently awesome. :verymad:

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I'm surprisingly cool with Barbara being able to walk. I expect more changes like this. But at least Dick Greyson gets his own identity back :-D

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With all that's going on I'm now expecting Rex Hunter's head exploding by the end of Flashpoint.

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I'm surprisingly cool with Barbara being able to walk. I expect more changes like this. But at least Dick Greyson gets his own identity back :-D


Maybe, just maybe, Roy Harper won't be insane???????

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BuddyBaker wrote:
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I'm surprisingly cool with Barbara being able to walk. I expect more changes like this. But at least Dick Greyson gets his own identity back :-D


Maybe, just maybe, Roy Harper won't be insane???????


I'd probably bet on him returning much younger and back as Red Arrow; never having fathered Lian.

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